Talmud Bavli
Talmud Bavli

Quoting%20commentary for Ketubot 84:9

אמר רבא האי מילתא קשאי בה רבה ורב יוסף עשרין ותרתין שנין ולא איפרק עד דיתיב רב יוסף ברישא ופירקה שאני התם דאמר קרא (דברים כב, כט) ונתן האיש השוכב עמה לאבי הנערה חמשים כסף לא זיכתה תורה לאב אלא משעת נתינה

Rava said This matter was difficult for Rabbah and R. Joseph for twenty-two years and they could not solve it until R. Joseph sat at the head [of the academy] and solved it: There it is different [from other fines] because Scripture said, “Then the man that lay with her shall give to the young girl’s father fifty [shekels of] silver” [which implies that] the Torah has not given the father the right of possession before the money had actually been handed to him.

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